Kleiman’s attorneys seek UK witnesses, send letter of request for international judicial assistance

… Stefan Matthews, (iii) Calvin Ayre, (iv) or their agents that relate to W&K Info Defense Research, Dave Kleiman, Satoshi Nakamoto, or the Tulip Trust.

Quick Take

  • The Kleiman v. Wright case has been going on since February 2018
  • Now, Kleiman’s attorneys want to interview three UK-based witnesses, sending a letter of request for international judicial assistance to interview them
  • The UK judge will review letter and decide whether or not to grant the request

by Nelson Rosario

20 hrs ago · 4 min read

Disclaimer: These summaries are provided for educational purposes only by Nelson Rosario and Stephen Palley. They are not legal advice. These are our opinions only, aren’t authorized by any past, present or future client or employer. Also we might change our minds. We contain multitudes.

As always, Rosario summaries are “NMR” and Palley summaries are “SDP”.

Kleiman v. Wright, Case №9:18-cv-80176-BB/BR (S.D. Fla., mailed July 22, 2019) [NMR]

The Kleiman v. Wright case has been underway since February of 2018. That’s 17 months time, and we still have a long way to go in this case, especially if this most recent request is granted. That request relates to witnesses. People that may be able to shed some light on the whole Satoshi issue, and other matters relevant to Kleiman’s case against Craig Wright. The problem is these people are all in the UK. So, what can you do when you want to interview people in the UK? Well, you can have the court send a Request for International Judicial Assistance. A what? Time for a little international law lesson.

For those unaware, there are lots of international treaties between countries all around the world. Lots. Given that lawsuits involving parties in different countries are not new things, you can probably guess that some of those international treaties would deal with how to handle those lawsuits. What happened recently in the Kleiman v. Wright case, is that the Court sent a letter of request to the Senior Master of the Queen’s Bench Division of the High Court, Royals Courts of Justice in London. There’s so much more pageantry in London, but I digress. Kleiman’s attorneys prepared this letter for the Court to send via a procedure authorized under the Convention on the Taking of Evidence Abroad in Civil or Commercial Matters, or more commonly known as the Hague Evidence Convention. This treaty was ratified by the U.S. in 1972, and later by the UK in 1976, ergo, lawyers in both countries may leverage the Convention to get evidence when they need it. So, what evidence is Kleiman seeking here?

Well, according to the request, Kleiman’s attorneys want to interview three witnesses: Andrew O’Hagan who wrote the book The Satoshi Affair, Ramona Watts who is Craig Wright’s wife, and Robert MacGregor a business associate of Wright. As you can imagine, these people probably know some things. In the letter of request the particular documentation requested, and the proposed subject matter of questioning is laid out for the UK judge to see.

From O’Hagan the plaintiff wants to ask about the process of writing the Satoshi Affair, as well as, any statements or documents provided by Wright that related to Dave Kleiman, W&K Info, Satoshi, the creation of Bitcoin, etc., Kleiman also wants access to related emails and documents, and notably “many hours of tape” that were used to write the book.

From Ramona Watts, Kleiman’s attorneys want testimony concerning anything non-privileged Wright told her about Dave Kleiman, W&K Info, Satoshi, the creation of Bitcoin, Uyen Nguyen, the ATO investigation, the deal with MacGregor, Matthews, and Ayre, and intellectual property matters. As you can see, there’s some new players on the board. They also want any documents and communications that Watts has “dated prior to February 14, 2018, between Ms. Watts and either (i) Robert MacGregor, (ii) Stefan Matthews, (iii) Calvin Ayre, (iv) or their agents that relate to W&K Info Defense Research, Dave Kleiman, Satoshi Nakamoto, or the Tulip Trust.”

MacGregor was involved in a deal with Wright to sell the life rights to Satoshi’s story, and Kleiman’s attorneys want information about that, as well as anything related to Kleiman, Nakamoto, W&K, the Trust, the ATO investigation, IP matters, and the allegedly mined bitcoin. Just like Watts, the plaintiff wants documents and communications related to Dave Kleiman, W&K Info, Satoshi, the creation of Bitcoin, Uyen Nguyen, the ATO investigation, the deal with MacGregor, Matthews, and Ayre, and intellectual property matters. Needless to say, there is a lot of potential new evidence that may come into this case.

What happens next is that the UK judge will review letter and decide whether or not to grant the request. The UK judge could deny the request, and there wouldn’t be anything that the parties here in the U.S. could do about it. So, hopefully, for Kleiman, the request is compelling and is not an affront to the sensibilities of the UK judge. We shall see.


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He still claims he’s the real “Satoshi Nakamoto”, and some men and women in the cryptosphere believe in him as well. The Federal Bureau of …

Ira Kleiman, wife of Dave Kleiman, alleges that Craig Wriggt siphoned-off $5 billion worth of BTC, when Dave and Craig worked together from 2009 to 2013.

A motion has been filled, due to which Ramona Watts, the wife of Craig Wright will be brought in for questioning by a judge from Florida. The Kleiman estate needs Andrew O’Hagan, the one who wrote “The Satoshi Affair” as a witness for the lawsuit. Robert MacGregor who is a business associate of Craig has also been summoned.

All these individuals have a ton of information on Craig Wright and his shady deals. Wright allegedly forged the signature of Kleiman in order to seize his section of the partnership. This betrayal proves that Craig is not trustworthy, as he has scammed countless humans in the past.

Craig and Dave were both part of the original Bitcoin network, since 2009 up to 2013. Craig took over BSV, which was born as a result of a fork from the BCH chain. He still claims he’s the real “Satoshi Nakamoto”, and some men and women in the cryptosphere believe in him as well.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation seems to be venturing into crimes related to blockchain and cryptocurrencies. They are looking into Long Blockchain Corp [which was previously known as Long Island Iced Tea Corp.] on suspicions related to insider trading and securities fraud.

Back in December 2017, when the name change occurred, stocks of the company soared by a whopping 300%. This led to it being de-listed by the Nasdaq market, and the SEC and FINRA started exploring the possibility of foul play. Now, the FBI has latched on to the bandwagon.

Oliver Lindsay and Gannon Giguiere are the two whom the FBI are scrutinizing with great care. Prior to this, they were tied to a fraud case linked to Kelvin Medical. A “pump-and-dump” scheme is also being examined, mass stocks were bought and then dumped, causing prices to skyrocket.

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Florida Court Summons Wife and Associates of Craig Wright in Billion Dollar Lawsuit

To prove that he was indeed the founder of Bitcoin, Satoshi Nakamoto, Wright provided O’Hagan “extensive access” to his life. The estate claimed:.

As part of a pending lawsuit, a Florida judge has requested international judicial assistance from the Queen’s Bench Division in London to summon and question Craig Wright’s wife and associates in court. The Kleiman estate had filed a $10 billion federal lawsuit against self-proclaimed Bitcoin founder Wright in February 2018.

The court filed the petition on behalf of Ira Kleiman, wife of the now-deceased computer scientist, Dave Kleiman. According to Ira, Wright allegedly embezzled over $5 billion worth of Bitcoin at the time of the lawsuit, from her husband, who worked with Wright from 2009 to 2013. The Kleiman estate is looking to recover at least 30,000 BTC from Wright, along with any forked assets.

Craig Wright

Wright’s Business Associate and Author Summoned

The Kleiman estate has filed for the motion to question Ramona Watts, the wife of Craig Wright, since she “was identified in his initial disclosures as an individual with knowledge of the facts underlying the plaintiffs’ claims.”

According to the estate, Wright had revealed his mining partnership with Kleiman to his wife, who became the co-director of Bitcoin-related companies with her husband after their marriage.

In addition to questioning Ramona Watts, the Kleiman estate is also looking to obtain the testimony of Andrew O’Hagan, author of the book “The Satoshi Affair.” To prove that he was indeed the founder of Bitcoin, Satoshi Nakamoto, Wright provided O’Hagan “extensive access” to his life. The estate claimed:

“During this 6-month process, O’Hagan recorded many hours of tape” of his many dozens of hours of conversation with Wright” where they discussed information relevant to the lawsuit.”

Wright’s business associate, Robert MacGregor, was also named since he is acquainted with the details of the partnership between Wright and Kleiman, in addition to being the buyer of “Satoshi Nakamoto’s” life rights.

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Bitcoin Inception Partnership: A Betraying Affair?

According to the initial lawsuit filed by the Kleiman estate in 2018, Wright forged Kleiman’s signature to steal his share of the partnership. The value of the overall Bitcoin mined by the duo was worth approximately $10 billion in 2018 when Kleiman’s estate sued Wright.

Addressing claims that the two individuals were involved in the creation of Bitcoin, the estate said that “it was unclear whether Craig, Dave, and/or both created Bitcoin.” Reiterating their demand to receive a fair share of Kleiman’s digital assets, they said,

“It is undeniable, however, that Craig and Dave were involved in Bitcoin from its inception and that they accumulated a vast wealth of bitcoins from 2009 to 2013”.

Do you think the Kleiman estate will be successful in obtaining a testimony from Wright’s wife and associates? Let us know your thoughts in the comments below.


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Wright’s Wife Among Two Others To Be Questioned In Kleiman Lawsuit

“Mr MacGregor was privy to details surrounding bitcoin’s creation, the alleged Satoshi Nakamoto partnership, and the trusts at the heart of the dispute …

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By&nbspRishma Banerjee

The Florida court hearing the $10 billion Kleiman vs Wright lawsuit has made a request to the Queen’s Bench Division in London to question Craig Wright’s wife, Ramona Watts and two other UK residents, namely Andrew O’Hagan and Robert MacGregor.

The request was made on July 24 on behalf of Ira Kleiman, the brother of Wright’s deceased partner Dave Kleiman, who alleges Wright stole 1.1 million bitcoin from his brother.

Ramona Watts may be relevant to the case because being the defendant’s wife she was identified in his initial disclosures as “an individual with knowledge of the facts underlying the plaintiff’s’ claims”.

Andrew O’Hagan, the author of the book, “The Satoshi Affair”, was noted as a witness of interest because of a detailed recount in his book involving “Wright, his claim to have created bitcoin, and his relationship with Kleiman”. The legal filings say that during the six-month process of interviewing Wright for his book:

“Recorded ‘many hours of tape’ of his ‘many dozens of hours of conversations with Wright’ where they discussed information relevant to the lawsuit”.

Finally, Robert MacGregor, one of Wright’s business associates was mentioned in the document as:

“Mr MacGregor was privy to details surrounding bitcoin’s creation, the alleged Satoshi Nakamoto partnership, and the trusts at the heart of the dispute in this case.”

The most significant part of the case, is, however, the “Tulip Trusts”; two funds that were the destination of the bulk of bitcoins stockpiled by Wright and Dave Kleiman between 2009 and 2013.

Only seven trustees, including Wright and Kleiman, held encrypted keys, and were “managed by at least three people but not more than seven at any time”.

Wright, who will be appearing in the Florida court on August 7, accepted not having access to all the requisite keys to obtain the funds, but asserted that the entire 1.1 million bitcoins – valued at more than $10 billion at current prices – “will be returned” to him on January 1, 2020.

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Craig Wright’s Wife Now Involved Into $10b Bitcoin Lawsuit

Self-proclaimed Satoshi Nakamoto, Craig Wright has been facing a lawsuit for $10 billion over the course of 2019 and it seems to be making noise …

Self-proclaimed Satoshi Nakamoto, Craig Wright has been facing a lawsuit for $10 billion over the course of 2019 and it seems to be making noise once again but with a new twist…

Earlier this week on July 24th the Florida judge Bruce; Reinhart filed a request for international assistance with the Queen’s Beach Division in London.

The Florida court is after permission to question Wright’s wife and a couple of his business associates, all of whom are residents of that British jurisdiction.

This motion was filed by Ira Kleiman, on behalf of the now late computer programmer, Dave Kleiman.

Ira had filed a $10 billion lawsuit against Wright back in 2018, whilst claiming that Wright stole 1.1 Bitcoin from Dave before he passed away in 2013.

The Kleiman estate wants at least 300,000 Bitcoins as well as their forked assets, however, Wright has denied any involvement with the stolen BTC and has repeatedly claimed that he is the sole investor of Bitcoin.

In the latest court filing, the estate says it wants to question these three individuals including Wright’s wife, Ramona Watts as well as the author, Andrew O’Hagan and Wright’s business associate Robert MacGregor.

O’Hagan was provided with “extensive access” to Wright and his associates whilst he wrote his book, The Satoshi Affair in 2016, according to the Klieman estate. In this book, that’s where Wright made the claim of being the anonymous Satoshi Nakamoto.

“During this 6-month process, O’Hagan recorded “many hours of tape” of his “many dozens of hours of conversations with Wright.”

The Kleiman estate goes onto say that in regards to Ramona Watts, her testimony is relevant to the case as she is Wright’s wife and was “identified in his initial disclosures as an individual with knowledge of the facts underlying Plaintiffs’ claims.”

On top of this, the estate says that watts and Wright were both involved in his firms since 2011, which is before they were even married, and that Wright had discussed his business dealings in regards to Dave, with her.

Wright is set to appear in court in a few weeks on August 7th. It will be interesting to see how it plays out then.

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